Do you have to be against the Death Penalty to be ProLife?

I just read someone say “‘Prolife’ includes not wanting the death penalty”.

Usually Liberals say this to somehow point out a Prolifer is a hypocrite.

I’m not sure if these people have really thought this through.

There are many things that people say that are not true, but they say them because they heard it from someone else.

For example: “Republicans are for the Rich, Democrats are for the poor”, or “Trump is Racist”

When someone says they are against the death penalty, what they are saying is:
1. Ted Bundy should still be alive in prison getting sexy letter from his fans

2. You should be paying Ted Bundy’s prison costs….around 30k a year.

3. The victims….1000s….should have to live knowing that they get who raped and killed their daughter is alive and well.

4. God’s command to kill murderers is not to be followed

5. The life of an innocent baby is equal to that of Ted Bundy.

This is why God gave us his perfect and wonderful and fantastic law. Which, if we were right with God, we would have as the laws of the land. Many of our laws are from scripture.

It’s completely absurd that serial killers should be able to enjoy their lives at the costs of tax payers because some people think killing them is wrong.

It would be great if we placed a tax on the people who want to keep serial killers alive. I think if they had to pay 1% of their income to keep murderers alive they would soon change their minds.

Disciple response to a Proximity Christian on Disciples in Prison

In another Forum people were saying they were better than Disciples of Jesus in Prison. The conversation was long. I was bothered because of what I know about these people. And I was bothered that they were all in agreement. So I went off. I will post the last comment they made before I responded.
Brandon said: “I worked in a maximum security facility. Saw hundreds and hundreds of guys get that jail house religion. Soon as they get out, back to the same old thing. Only ever saw a few that actually stuck to it. For the majority, it’s just a game to play the system. This is what I saw first hand every day as a detention officer. Also, the disciples of Jesus committed no crimes other than worshiping God. Not like the ones here who rob, steal, and kill.”
[NOTE: THE DISCIPLE WHO RESPONDS TO BRANDON WAS IN PRISON FOR 5 YEARS. So while Brandon is using his experience as a Correctional Officer to justify his condemnation of Disciples in prison, the responder is the Disciple he is condemning]
My Response:
“How do you know what crimes they committed? Their lives are not told in Scripture….just a few hours of their lives. Peter denying Jesus 3 times after being with him all year is as bad or worse than our so called ‘felonies’.
1000s of people in prison make millions of ‘non-man-made-law-criminal-christians’ [i.e. non criminals by man’s laws]  look terrible in comparison. Churches are pact with people who would have been stoned to death if the Law-Of-God were in place [as it should be].
God finds many or most ‘church’ people abominable..claiming their forgiveness while aborting their kids, sleeping around like whores, engaging in sodomy regularly, gossiping about people, not helping the unborn who are being murdered by the millions, blocking out people who want to be in their bible study because they there is something about them that isnt pleasant. Not long ago they were burning people alive who did not believe in their 3 headed santa God. Catholics burned protestants, and protestants burned catholics…and both of them are completely wrong anyway.
God hates the Unites States as it is. You have no idea how bad Christians smell to God…..he sees all the things y’all hide. But 1000s of people in prison are ‘poor in spirit’, they dont sit on facebook and talk shit about other people’s faith. They give what little they have to others who dont have shit.
They dont say shit like “im going to walk boldy into the throne room”. …. they dont buy their pastors jets so they can fly around delivering a false Gospel to millions of people. They go to church in prison clothes, not fancy suits…and they sure dont look down on people who ‘dont dress nice’. Are some fake? Of course…but there is more fakneness in your very midst. If you dont see it…its probably because you are a well liked and respected person. Just keep in mind Jesus said if you follow him people will hate you.
My estimation and experience tells me, if you arent hated by all the false believers and non believers,
you’re likely not a disciple of Jesus…
maybe a disciple of Paul…
or pope so and so,
or Pastor so and so,
or Bishop give me money,
or one of the reformers
…”Im a CALVINist”,
“Im a LUTHERan”.
You want a test? Go to a church where they dont know you. Dress in average clothes, tell them you got out of prison, but show a deep love for God….and see how these beautiful non felons [mans laws not God’s law] treat you. Sign up for the bible study with a group your age. See how it goes.
I’ve seen people kicked out of fellowship for reading the KJV and saying its the best version…
ive seen people kicked out because they witness to people in public. [the pastor call this ‘AGGRESSIVE EVANGELISM’. Which is an actors way of saying “I dont really believe this crap, dont embarrass me”].
A pastor told me about a family that was kicked out of a church because the father had turrets.
Because GOD FORBID he said “f-f-f-f-f-f-f-fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck”.
Here’s an inside peace of information.
God cares about that man, he doesnt give a fcuk about about the word fuck or shit or Damn or asshole.
And guess who else doesnt care…..people in prison.
But guess what…when Judgment comes all these pretty non felons who sodomize their wives, pay for abortions, have rape fantasies, get drunk, get high, vote for Democrats who keep the holocaust legal, gossip about people, make up lies about people, dont forgive people, dont keep the sabbath, who follow Paul, who call men “Father”, who join the first church they encounter and call their version “absolute Truth”…yes we will see what happens to them. We will see what happens. Peace.

[This is opinion. if scripture is referenced, then only the scripture is absolutely True]

Matthew 5:17-20 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.  For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.  Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.  For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed [the righteousness] of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

So you have finally decided to follow Jesus only and reject those who preach lawlessness.

Matthew 7:23  “And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'”

Matthew 13:41  “The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness,”

My advice to new law keepers is, “Practice what you know, and learn the rest”. Most people know the 10 commandments, but don’t keep the sabbath Holy. So for one you could stop all work from Friday at dusk, to Saturday at dusk.

Most of us also know we are not to eat Swine/Pork, we are not to shave our beard, we are to wear tassles on the 4 corners of our garment, we are to write out Deuteronomy 6.4 and post it on the doorpost.

If you start with these 14 laws [10 + 4],then that’s a good start.

Be careful not to go to the Rabbis. The Rabbis have equated their writings with the Torah [The Torah is the first 5 Books of the Hebrew Bible]. They have violated Yahweh’s law by adding to it.

It is good practice to write down the commandments as you come across them. Obviously the laws concerning the Temple you are unable to keep.


Law: Do not say the name of idols

Ex 23:13 And in all [things] that I have said unto you be circumspect: and make no mention of the name of other gods, neither let it be heard out of thy mouth.

1. One motive for this was the extinction of idols.

Deuteronomy 12:3
And ye shall overthrow their altars, and break their pillars…and destroy the names of them out of that place.

2. Yahweh through His prophets told us a day would come when the false gods would be remembered no more. As the Church spread, the gods disappeared

Jeremiah 10:11
Thus shall ye say unto them, The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth, [even] they shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens.

Hosea 2:17
For I will take away the names of Baalim out of her mouth, and they shall no more be remembered by their name.

Zechariah 13:2
And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the LORD of hosts, [that] I will cut off the names of the idols out of the land, and they shall no more be remembered: and also I will cause the prophets and the unclean spirit to pass out of the land.

Paul was wrong about The Law

Paul contradicts Yahweh, Moses, & Jesus

Deuteronomy 12:32
“Whatever I command you, be careful to observe it; you shall not add to it nor take away from it.”

“‘Cursed is the one who does not confirm all the words of this law by observing them.’”

“if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing.”

“till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law”